Today’s guests are Kent Yoshimura and Ryan Chen, co-founders of Neuro. The two met in college and were friends for a few years before putting their minds together to create a product that would allow them to get a clean boost of energy throughout the day. Originally that energy came in pill form, but they thought it looked a little weird to be popping pills in public. So they pivoted into a much more socially acceptable form of ingestion: gum and mints.

After a successful indiegogo campaign that gained traction through Reddit, Neuro was born. After a few years, an appearance on Shark Tank, and a couple of unsolicited endorsements by super fans Joe Rogan and Apollo Anton Ohno, Neuro is making big strides towards their goal of becoming a lifestyle brand.

Listen in as we cover everything from why Ryan’s mom had to cosign on their first business bank account, why Kent’s college dorm room reminded Ryan of a scene from Scarface, and we learn which program has the bigger bump: Shark Tank or Joe Rogan.